tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post7857435703238887704..comments2024-03-28T12:59:41.910-04:00Comments on NeverEnding Story: To the Lighthouse: Is "War and Peace" a Haiku?Chen-ou Liu, 劉鎮歐http://www.blogger.com/profile/06235248170011255532noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-46817999067991488772013-01-26T08:27:58.692-05:002013-01-26T08:27:58.692-05:00Ji Bo, Bill, and My Blog Readers:
I just posted m...Ji Bo, Bill, and My Blog Readers:<br /><br />I just posted my answers to the implied questions above (that treat Basho's 3-LINE POEM as a haiku), in today's post, Poetic Musings: A Generic Analysis of Basho’s Frog Haiku, which can be accessed at http://neverendingstoryhaikutanka.blogspot.ca/2013/01/poetic-musings-generic-analysis-of.html<br /><br />Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.Chen-ou Liu, 劉鎮歐https://www.blogger.com/profile/06235248170011255532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-67003167753736514722013-01-19T20:44:23.042-05:002013-01-19T20:44:23.042-05:00Bill, no slippage. What I asked is as follows:
Q1...Bill, no slippage. What I asked is as follows:<br /><br />Q1: How can there be significant meaning in this "3-LINE POEM" which merely describes a frog jumping into an old pond?<br /><br />Q2: If I replace “frog” with any other amphibian creature or any creature that can dive into a pond, is it[3-line poem] still considered to be great? ”<br /><br />However, the first responser, Ji Bo, skipped my original questions and directly answered the implied questions below:<br /><br />Q1: How can there be significant meaning in this [haiku] which merely describes a frog jumping into an old pond?<br /><br />Q2: If I replace “frog” with any other amphibian creature or any creature that can dive into a pond, is it[haiku] still considered to be great? ”<br /><br />Chen-ouChen-ou Liu, 劉鎮歐https://www.blogger.com/profile/06235248170011255532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-67669996135871857162013-01-19T15:38:56.764-05:002013-01-19T15:38:56.764-05:00Some slippage here, Chen-ou. Through Q1, you'r...Some slippage here, Chen-ou. Through Q1, you're asking "What is a haiku?" But by the end of Q2, the implied question is "what makes a haiku great?" Really quite another matter.<br /><br />I believe in approaching questions of this sort In historical/narrative terms. If I say "War and Peace" is not a haiku, I'm saying it is not consistent with how the term has been used historically; it doesn't fit the story of haiku as it has evolved to this point. This does not rule out the theoretical possibility that at some point in the future, I might answer the question differently. Perhaps one day we'll recognize that all is haiku. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-38318025717554253992013-01-18T20:13:04.549-05:002013-01-18T20:13:04.549-05:00The full text of Robert Aitken’s interpretation of...The full text of Robert Aitken’s interpretation of Basho's frog haiku can be found in "Matsuo Bashô: Frog Haiku (Thirty-one Translations and One Commentary)", http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/basho-frog.htmChen-ou Liu, 劉鎮歐https://www.blogger.com/profile/06235248170011255532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-91800493419002866102013-01-18T20:09:53.534-05:002013-01-18T20:09:53.534-05:00Dear Ji Bo:
I'm familiar with Robert Aitken’s...Dear Ji Bo:<br /><br />I'm familiar with Robert Aitken’s Buddhist-influenced interpretations of Basho’s haiku in his collection of essays.<br /><br />His interpretation of Basho's frog haiku cannot answer my second question. It's because he says little about the poetico-functional role of the frog. <br /><br />For more info., see my essay, The Ripples from a Splash: A Generic Analysis of Basho’s Frog Haiku, which was published in Magnapoets, #7,January 2011. It can be accessed at http://www.scribd.com/doc/61532574/The-Ripples-From-a-Splash<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your thought.<br /><br />Chen-ou<br /><br /><br /><br />Chen-ou Liu, 劉鎮歐https://www.blogger.com/profile/06235248170011255532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786207835641480928.post-45763328651961386482013-01-18T17:27:05.064-05:002013-01-18T17:27:05.064-05:00Ask Aitken Roshi! ("A Zen Wave: Basho's H...Ask Aitken Roshi! ("A Zen Wave: Basho's Haiku and Zen")ji bo's bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10047105581794394830noreply@blogger.com